F10 535d: 50k and 2½ years’ on

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    Another 6 months (ish), time for an update following upon on the 40k post (which contained more pics ☺).
    Here’s a reminder of my trusty steed…
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    So 2½ years and the miles accumulate, as do the stone chips on the front. I’m still very happy with the car. The touch-up paint, even though the official Space Grey, is slightly lighter at some angles which is a tad annoying but less unsightly than leaving things untouched.
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    A rather loud rattle appeared in the back somewhere when the car was cold and pulling away gently while running at low speed. This was traced to the high-level brake light housing, which I carefully removed (it unclips fairly easily), lined with my trusty 3M furry tape and re-fitted. Fixed. Cracked front number plate was replaced following the stone impact I mentioned last time.

    There was a glitch with the multi-functional instrument panel, a couple of months ago. I did a short post on it. It basically went out, reset itself and then there was a similar glitch with the voice control system (which if nothing else made me realise how much I use it!). Neither has re-occurred.

    Fuel consumption has improved with the warmer weather – I attribute this largely to the engine warning up so much quicker in summer. Spot the seasonal variation:
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    It’s now about 5,000 miles from its 3rd oil service which will of course be outside the now-expired 50,000 mile service pack, so at my own expense – I’ll share the details in due course. It will be inside the 3-year warranty period though. Consistent with the last time, as the miles between oil services accumulate, the idle IMO appears to get slightly less smooth when cold. I was tempted to change the oil more frequently, then I found out my old 530d, with which I also stuck rigidly to BMW service intervals, is alive and well with in excess of 160,000 miles on the clock, more or less doubling the mileage I did with it.

    The wheels are also beginning to show signs of the mileage. There’s a decent stone chip on one which I have no clue how to fix. Not even sure that I know what colour to use.
    Chipping.JPG I managed to gently kerb another and another has some signs of early corrosion, see below – and bear in mind this is a wheel with the original tyre on it, so unmolested by tyre changes. Anyone rate my chances of getting that fixed under warranty?
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    I use the car with my trusty Android phone and also now an iPhone SE for business. Whilst the Apple integration used to be fine with my old iPhone 5, I am now finding with the SE, the new Connected app is largely useless. It will (inconsistently) send destinations to the car but it will not activate ventilation. Worst of all, it simply does not want to work with Amazon Music (even though the old Connected app integrated the Amazon music app seamlessly with the iDrive, both with stored and streamed music). Back to my trusty USB stick it is then…

    Running costs-wise, I calculate it’s down a little since my last update, mainly due to the depreciation curve gradually slowing. It’s still over 60p/mile.

    The original fit Bridgestone Turanza ER300 summers are now well past their prime and I’m now in the market for 4 replacements. They’ve managed close to 40,000 miles and are all nudging 3mm. Brake pads have according to the iDrive 43k remaining on the fronts and 50k on the rears. Only in the last 6 months have the front pads’ mileage started coming down.

    The second map update from BMW was installed recently, with no issues, other than an almost complete failure to include any of the new roads in Cheshire, which I suspect is not BMW’s fault but whoever they get their map database from.

    It’s about this time I start thinking of replacements but I still don’t know what I’d get. I’ll see how it goes through the next service and its 1st MOT and then decide…
     
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    Good to hear that your iDrive software glitches have sorted themselves out. Very impressed with the fuel consumption history (Excel?). It shows the seasonal variation range but it doesn't show what the average mpg is. :confused: I never recorded mine in such detail, but generally found that consumption was about 10% worse over the cold winter months.

    The BMW paint finish does not seem that good in resisting stone chips. I've got quite a few around the front bumper and bonnet that I must get around to fixing before the colder weather arrives. Disappointing considering that I've only covered 16k miles so far. There are less chips on my Golf GTi which is 15 years old, and 150k miles - currently being used by my son-in-law.
     
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    I have the same problem with my F10, very disappointed with the paint quality if I'm honest, not as bad as the photos JG put up, but irritating just the same. Compare that with my E39 which only had two or three stone chips around the front end when I sold it at almost 12 years old.
     
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    I wonder if the abundance of paint chips is caused by the eco paint that they are using now being less durable than the old paint that they used in the past

    I live in an area where they still use a lot of the tar and chipping and i think this type of road surface is a nightmare for car aint, also a few years ago we drove around with huge grey plastic bumpers that took the brunt of the punishment but now we have paint all the way to the underskirt and that takes all the road has to throw at it

    if i had a mint car that i really wanted to keep looking that way i would seriously consider having one of the self healing paint films applied to the vulnerable areas at the front of the car
     
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    Thanks, yes, the chart's a bit of Excel nerdery. The average mpg (reflecting motorway use and slightly flattered by the 50 limit between J16 & J19) is a little over 48 mpg since new, which I am very happy with. The paint is disappointing but the inevitable result of it now being water-based. They also used to use a more elastomeric (impact resistant) paint formulation on bumpers, which had a lower curing temperature to accommodate the limitations of the plastic used for bumpers but AFAIK they don't do that any more because modern bumper plastics are more heat resistant so survive higher paint curing temps. https://www.bmwlander.co.uk/index.php?threads/clean-car-but-paint-concerns.1169/#post-16288
     
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    As you probably know I had the whole front end of my car painted in January following an accident, the new paint seems much stronger and less prone to chipping, so maybe the answer is to get a body shop to spray the front.
    I would just put clear laquer on your wheel chip to stop it corroding.
     
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    48 mpg - that's still impressive for a 5353d even though mostly motorways. My 330d is currently showing around 41 mpg (OBC) on mainly normal A roads.

    I agree about the water based paints concerning durability - the price we have to pay for the constant obsession to be 'environmentally friendly'. As @kleynie suggests - use clear laquer to seal any chips on the wheels. I've done a couple on mine after first rubbing down with very fine wet and dry, followed by polishing compound and then using the clear varnish from BMW touch up kit. Hardly noticeable. With a good coat of Poor Boys wheel sealant after should keep corrosion at bay (fingers crossed).
     
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    Good to read an update at higher mileage, certainly good economy in the 535d. Driving your annual mileage, must mean more hot and steady running than something like my petrol use.

    Makes my low mileage 535i example, (42k miles at 6-years) appear hardly used. :) BTW, you are still using much more fuel than me at my 30mpg average. :D

    Seeing your report/review has given me a prod, must get mine sorted. I was hoping to get the camera system fully sorted to complete my review, but we are still waiting for the control unit.

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    What's not to 'like' about that @Abh29 ? :whistle:
     
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    Humm, I was thinking the same.
     
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    I wouldn't bother increasing the frequency of the oil change. Mine (E60 535d) has over 230k and I only change on the iDrive prompt (use good quality oil)
    For the cold idle check for dodgy glow plugs and/or controller.

    I wish I was getting 48mpg. Mine is about 10mpg down on that.

    I would advocate clear film. I bought mine with 24k miles eight years ago. There were a couple of chips on the bumper. I got it covered before I brought it home and in the 200k since have only picked up one or two more. Only regret is not getting the entire front done (bonnet has about the first foot or so covered in film)
     
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    I drove mine directly from delivery to get the front end wrapped in 3M Venture Shield. Best move I ever made.
     
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    How much did you pay for that if you don't mind me asking, guessing just the bumper, or bumper wings and bonnet?
     
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    I would certainly think so, now is the time before you get a new tyre/puncture. We ran Golf's that had terrible alloy delamination, these were picked up under warranty at around 20 months, if you don't ask...
     
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    Hi sshooie, the front end wrap is the whole bonnet, bumpers, wing mirrors, so, full front end plus rear tailgate lip cover. The whole lot fitted was £580 ish iirc.
     
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    Interesting. How long ago was it done? Have you had some time to see how it holds up?
     
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    Thanks, sounds decent value if it does what it says on the tin.
     
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    It is a great product. I have had two other cars done in it before the F11. The car is nearly 3 years old and the wrap is holding up as new, it really is superb. No stone chips at all, the car is as new seriously. Also, you really have to take a good look at the car to notice it is on there.
     
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